Yep, that's what Ron Paul states in this second part of the what does Ron Paul think about Syrias' civil war. You might rememeber yesterday that I had written a post about how Ron Paul thinks that the Kosovo Genocide didn't really happen and how he thinks it was just propaganda. So, here's the other part. Ron Paul enititles this one as "When Will We Attack Syria?" Propably never, if Russia and China doesn't stop sticking up for a dictator that is killing his own people because he's own people don't like him.
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Plans, rumors, and war propaganda for attacking Syria and deposing Assad have been around for many months.
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What "war propaganda" are you talking about? What, the Homs shelling? No, that was real.
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This past week however, it was reported that the Pentagon indeed has finalized plans to do just that. In my opinion, all the evidence to justify this attack is bogus. It is no more credible than the pretext given for the 2003 invasion of Iraq or the 2011 attack on Libya.
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WHAT? Holy Damn! So, Ron Paul thinks the US going into Iraq on actual false pretense of "WMD's in Iraq" is just like going into Libya, with the UN and NATO, intervening in a Civil War, under the real life pretenses, to stop Col. Gaddaffi from killing more of his own people. Wow, that's a hell of a leap you made!
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The total waste of those wars should cause us to pause before this all-out effort at occupation and regime change is initiated against Syria.
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Libya didn't cost that much because we didn't put troops on the ground, kind of like what the Republicans wanted to do to get Libyan oil. And there was no occupation of Libya, though they did thank the "Fantastic 4" for helping them take down Col. Gaddaffi.
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There are no national security concerns that require such a foolish escalation of violence in the Middle East. There should be no doubt that our security interests are best served by completely staying out of the internal strife now raging in Syria.
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Yeah, why would we want to go into Syria? Could it be because the dictator is killing thier own people? Well, if it is, we should really take notice of what Ron Paul had to say about WW2 and the Jews that were being killed in Nazi Germany. From the Daily Kos:
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Following a controversial revelation by a former aide to the congressman, saying that Paul "wishes Israel didn't exist," another blogger said Tuesday that in 2009 Paul went on the record as saying that if he were the president of the United States during WWII he "wouldn't have risked American lives to end the Holocaust."
Journalist Jeffrey Shapiro posted a 2009 interview he held with the GPO's leading candidate, in which Paul clearly states that if it were up to him at the time, saving the Jews from annihilation in Europe would not have been a "moral imperative."
"I asked Congressman Paul: If he were president of the United States during World War II would he have sent American troops to Nazi Germany to save the Jews? And the Congressman answered: No, I wouldn't."
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So, to Ron Paul's own ideas, we shouldn't help the Jews during WW2. We propabaly shouldn't have even faught in WW2 with England and the Soviet Union to stop the Fascist. We should have just let them take over the world and killed whom ever they wanted, as long as they don't do anything to us, what should we care? Let's get back to Ron Paul.
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We are already too much involved in supporting the forces within Syria anxious to overthrow the current government. Without outside interference, the strife – now characterized as a civil war – would likely be non-existent.
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"Without outside interference, the strife – now characterized as a civil war – would likely be non-existent."
Yeah, because the Arab Spring didn't pop up because of the opperesion people were under and those opperesed people wanting freedom, it was totally because of the US. Just like with Libya, Eqypt and Algeria and the starting country Tunisia. Wait, we weren't in Algeria, nor were we in Eqypt, and nor were we in Tunisia where the Arab Spring started. How does Ron Paul explain this?
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Whether or not we attack yet another country, occupying it and setting up a new regime that we hope we can control poses a serious Constitutional question: From where does a president get such authority?
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" (...) occupying it and setting up a new regime (...)"
I'm sorry, did we set up a new regime in Egypt? How about Algeria or Tunisia? Oh wait, we didn't play any part in that, execpt that we condeming the actions to put down the protestors by the Governments of those countries.
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Since World War II the proper authority to go to war has been ignored. It has been replaced by international entities like the United Nations and NATO, or the President himself, while ignoring the Congress. And sadly, the people don't object.
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Really? Because the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (starting up the Vietnam War) was passed by Congress on Augest 7, 1964 and was repealed in January 1971.
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Our recent presidents explicitly maintain that the authority to go to war is not the U.S. Congress. This has been the case since 1950 when we were taken into war in Korea under UN Resolution and without Congressional approval.
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I guess you forget, Ron Paul, that it was not the US who started the Korean War, it was North Korea, who stated the war, by over running the DMZ zone and attacking South Korea. The South Korean Army put itself under the UN. That's possibly the reason why we had a UN resolution instead of passing something through the Congress.
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And once again, we are about to engage in military action against Syria and at the same time irresponsibly reactivating the Cold War with Russia. We're now engaged in a game of "chicken" with Russia which presents a much greater threat to our security than does Syria.
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" (...) we are about to engage in military action against Syria (...)"
If Russia and China would stop vetoing the resolutions, we might actually do something...
"(...) and at the same time irresponsibly reactivating the Cold War with Russia."
What? I'm sorry...what? You know, Gramps, the Soviet Union fell in 1991. The "Cold War" hasn't been effective since then. So, what the hell are you talking about?
"We're now engaged in a game of "chicken" with Russia which presents a much greater threat to our security than does Syria."
Um...not anymore.(?) When did the Cold War come back into play? So, how is Russia vetoing resolutions so they can make more money by giving Al-Assads Army more weapons, a greater threat then Syria killing it's own people be using weapons that come from Russia. Hey, Ron Paul, you forgot China.
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How would we tolerate Russia in Mexico demanding a humanitarian solution to the violence on the U.S.-Mexican border? We would consider that a legitimate concern for us. But, for us to be engaged in Syria, where the Russian have a legal naval base, is equivalent to the Russians being in our backyard in Mexico.
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"How would we tolerate Russia in Mexico demanding a humanitarian solution to the violence on the U.S.-Mexican border?"
Well, first of all, most of the violence is in Mexico, even if the news states that it's "along the US-Mexico border", it's mostly in Mexico. Second, the US Government overrules the UN. How do you think that "small guns ban", or whatever it was, never became law here? So, there's your answer.
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We are hypocritical when we condemn Russian for protecting their neighborhood interests for exactly what we have been doing ourselves, thousands of miles away from our shores. There's no benefit for us to be picking sides, secretly providing assistance and encouraging civil strife in an effort to effect regime change in Syria.
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"There's no benefit for us to be picking sides, secretly providing assistance and encouraging civil strife in an effort to effect regime change in Syria."
Who said we were picking sides? We are with the people who want to overthrow Al-Assad. How is that too hard for you to understand?
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Falsely charging the Russians with supplying military helicopters to Assad is an unnecessary provocation. Falsely blaming the Assad government for a so-called massacre perpetrated by a violent warring rebel faction is nothing more than war propaganda.
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Yeah, who cares about reality, just keep living in your own little world that isn't real.
"Falsely blaming the Assad government for a so-called massacre perpetrated by a violent warring rebel faction is nothing more than war propaganda."
What the fuck is this? What, you think the opposition people have all the Syrian tanks? What a bunch of bullshit! So, who killed al those people in Homs, Ron? Who killed those 30,000 people in Homs bakc in the 1980's Ron? Can you tell me? Let me guess. It's the people who rose up in opposition to Al-Assads father like it is no, right Ron? What a dumbass!
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Most knowledgeable people now recognize that the planned war against Syria is merely the next step to take on the Iranian government, something the neo-cons openly admit.
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Ok, Ron Paul is right about the neo-con thing, but the neo-cons aren't in charge and everytime that the Obama Adminastration does something (passing resolutions and helping the people of Libya and Syria), some douch, like you, screams out that we're taking over their country, yet we don't do that at all. This is not the Bush Adminastration!
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"(...) just as we have done in Saudi Arabia (...)"
Um...we don't "control" the Saudi Arabian oil, the Saudis do (Yes we have companies over there but that doesn't mean we steal the oil). They give us oil in exchange for money. You know this, right? We're not taking it from them, we're paying them.
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War is inevitable without a significant change in our foreign policy, and soon. Disagreements between our two political parties are minor. Both agree the sequestration of any war funds must be canceled. Neither side wants to abandon our aggressive and growing presence in the Middle East and South Asia.
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"Both agree the sequestration of any war funds must be canceled."
Why? Wouldn't this be a good thing? Then we can get the military down to the size that we need instead of the bloated size it is now.
"Neither side wants to abandon our aggressive and growing presence in the Middle East and South Asia."
Oh, execpt for the Democrats who already got us out of Iraq...did you forget that Ron?
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This crisis building can easily get out of control and become a much bigger war than just another routine occupation and regime change that the American people have grown to accept or ignore.
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"This crisis building can easily get out of control and become a much bigger war than just another routine occupation (...)"
Yeah, like Libya...oh wait!
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It's time the United States tried a policy of diplomacy, seeking peace, trade, and friendship. We must abandon our military effort to promote and secure an American empire.
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"It's time the United States tried a policy of diplomacy, seeking peace, trade, and friendship."
Because we never tried this before...
"We must abandon our military effort to promote and secure an American empire."
Tell that to Mitt Romeny.
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Besides, we're broke, we can't afford it, and worst of all, we're fulfilling the strategy laid out by Osama bin Laden whose goal had always been to bog us down in the Middle East and bring on our bankruptcy here at home.
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Yeah, we're broke, but the rich aren't Tax the rich fat cats already. Of course, Ron Paul would stop all taxes so that no one will need to pay taxes. Have fun fixing the roads and all the other stuff that the Government does for you, with tax money, for free!
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It's time to bring our troops home and establish a non-interventionist foreign policy, which is the only road to peace and prosperity
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Well, Ron Paul better have a really good jobs and educational bill for this nation if everyone is coming home from all the bases that we have. These guys will really want to get a job and a good education. Too bad that Ron Paul wants to cut things out of this Government that would be handy to do just that. Do you know how many people that would be? According to the number of military personel in 1998, that would be 519,742 people. I'm pretty sure there is more then that, but that was back in '98, so that will give you some what of a reference to how many will be coming home if Ron Paul wins.
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This week I am introducing legislation to prohibit the Administration, absent a declaration of war by Congress, from supporting – directly or indirectly – any military or paramilitary operations in Syria. I hope my colleagues will join me in this effort.
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Yeah, he said this on the House Floor. Don't worry, I don't really think anyone was listening.
Thank you for looking.
Shydude89.
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Saturday, July 14, 2012
Friday, July 13, 2012
Explosive Stupidity: Alex Jones Holds A Contest About "Dictator" Obama.
Just a warning, this is going to get very stupid, very quick. Ok, so Alex has a new contests out that is called 'Stop Dictator Obama'. Because, if anyone was a dictator, it couldn't have been George Bush and his goon squad made up of Dick Cheney and Karl Rove. So, Alex Jones and douchbags who follow him, what are the rules for this most fucking stupid contest that you have on your website?
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In order to focus attention on the dictatorial and imperial presidency of Obama, Alex Jones and the Infowars team have decided to launch a contest.
Taking cues from the successful Obama Joker contest we held in 2009, the new effort will use posters strategically placed in lawful public commons areas to convey the obvious – the globalist puppet Barry aka Barack Obama is a tyrannical dictator who has willfully and continually violated the Constitution and betrayed the trust of the American people. Because a lickspittle corporate media has virtually ignored the significance of Obama’s treason, we believe it is crucial to raise awareness with a new poster campaign.
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Don't worry, it will get worse then this. Let's take a look over this paragraph.
" (...) the globalist puppet Barry aka Barack Obama is a tyrannical dictator who has willfully and continually violated the Constitution (...)"
When did he violate the Constitution? Oh, I think I know what Alex Jones is talking about. That time we went into Pakistan and killed Osama Bin Laden and when we put drones in the air in Yemen to go after the Al-Qaeda nutjobs and we killed that propaganda douch, Anwar Al-Awalki, who puts out magizine, called Inspire, trying inspiring muslims to become home-grown terrorist. Oh, and just because Anwar Al-Awalki is an American citizen doesn't mean we can't go after him. He is considered a terrorist and promoting terrorism with his magazine.
"Because a lickspittle corporate media has virtually ignored the significance of Obama’s treason (...)"
If that's "treason" to Alex, then I call bullshit. Anyway, there was much more treason during Bush's Adminastration, what with the lieing to Congress and to the American people.
"(...) we believe it is crucial to raise awareness with a new poster campaign."
Well, atleast you're doing something other then screaming that "9/11 was an inside job" all god damn day.
Then after that we have two videos that I'm not going to go over but you can certainly see them on the website. I think this contest is over but I'm not sure. It already has the 1st place winner, Youtube name nfcjosh. The second place winner was Youtube name ra2day. So, congrats on winning $5,000 and $1,000, you fucking fascist dickheads. Here's more of the contest crap.
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Win $5,000 by producing a poster and a video of its placement in a lawful public commons area. The poster must stress the tyranny of Obama and include the Infowars.com web address.
An example would be Obama festooned with a Hitler mustache or a likewise resemblance of classic totalitarian posterage (Mao or Stalin, for example). However, the sky’s the limit and we encourage you to get creative and come up with your own motif.
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"An example would be Obama festooned with a Hitler mustache or a likewise resemblance of classic totalitarian posterage (...)"
A Hitler mustache? On Presdient Obama? No, I think that type of thing should be reserved for Alex Jones. Alex has his own SS force (Infowarriors) who listen to his show like he's the Fuhrer.
Let's see what else Alex, the Fuhrer of Infowars, has to say next...
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Alex has suggested the following cues to get you started: Rat Dictator Obama, Dictator Scum, Murdering Dictator, etc. Concentrate on Obama’s crimes and you’ll find the appropriate message. We’d like to see the posters provide specific details on how Obama has become a dictator, for instance his signing of the NDAA and issuing numerous executive orders.
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"Alex has suggested the following cues to get you started: Rat Dictator Obama, Dictator Scum, Murdering Dictator, etc."
Hey Alex...Fuck you. You know why? You didn't do this with George Bush, did you? Oh, shit, you kind of did, but you didn't go this far.
"(...) provide specific details on how Obama has become a dictator, for instance his signing of the NDAA (...)"
Yeah, well, President Obama may have signed the NDAA bill, but at least he didn't come up with it...
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From Justia.com : (This paragraph appers 7 paragraphs down)
It was President George W. Bush, together with Vice-President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and a host of other senior Bush administration officials who took the most radical and important steps toward establishing indefinite detention without trial as a mainstay of the US approach to fighting terrorism. But the Bush administration, preferring to act unilaterally, did not even bother to seek congressional sanction for its indefinite detention schemes. It established Guantanamo on its own, held American citizens without charge in the absence of a legislative mandate to do so, and fought judicial oversight tooth and nail.
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So, what happened when this happened? You want to know what happened? Nothing. No one cared. No one cared that their rights were taken away by George Bush and Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeild. Well, that isn't really true. Liberals made the biggest rebel yell about these things, protesting, and talking about what George Bush did, including the Abu Ghraib prision scandle, but the Republicans and the Religious Holier-Then -Thou Right couldn't care. So, we could have stopped it, but no one cared, execpt for the liberals.
Ok, what else do we need to know Alex?
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You can create your own poster or use ours.
Please remember to abide by all local ordinances when displaying your posters. A good rule of thumb is to post them in entertainment, eatery and bar areas where other posters may be posted.
This is a package deal and the video presentation and its overall aesthetics and dynamic content are as equally important as the graphical impact of the poster and its message.
Phase One is on a tight schedule. All video entries must be on YouTube or a similar video hosting platform by Friday, June 22, at midnight CST. Alex will announce the winner on Monday’s Infowars Nightly News streamed on PrisonPlant.tv 7pm Central.
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Oh, damn we missed this one...but...
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Phase Two
Same deal as above, but with a more expansive time-frame. The winner of this phase of the contest will receive a whopping $10,000. The deadline is July 6, 2012, at midnight CST.
We can’t emphasize how important this contest is with a lackadaisical Congress and a compliant corporate media that either completely ignores Obama’s treachery or criminally glosses over it.
Entries and winner of the Phase 1 contest will be eligible for the Phase 2 contest as well.
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Oh damn, we missed this one too, but there are video with who won and two posters that show President Obama with a Hitler mustache with the words "DICTATOR SCUM" on the poster above and below the Presidents face. And another with "MURDERING DICTATOR" with President Obama with red glowing eyes. And, of course, the thrid one which is President Obama with the Hitler mustache with different lighting.
In a last ditch effort to see if I was wrong on the claim I made about Alex not taking George Bushes presidence this far (to the point where he's making posters), but as I looked up "alex jones president bush dictator scum" I didn't find anything for 3 pages execpt for the President Obama contest. And then I went on to images on those words...still nothing but Presdient Obama, with a touch of Presdient / Dictator Mubarak, from Eqypt. I know Alex said a lot of bad things about Presdient Bush which some of it was true, but most of it false and a bunch of lies which propagated the idea of a "New World Order" of some sort and "9/11 was an inside job" bullshit. Too bad that he didn't hold a contest for Presdient Bush...then I would have admitted I was wrong.
Well, that's it for now. Join me again tomorrow where I'll go over one of those Ron Paul articles from the LewRockwell website.
Shydude89.
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In order to focus attention on the dictatorial and imperial presidency of Obama, Alex Jones and the Infowars team have decided to launch a contest.
Taking cues from the successful Obama Joker contest we held in 2009, the new effort will use posters strategically placed in lawful public commons areas to convey the obvious – the globalist puppet Barry aka Barack Obama is a tyrannical dictator who has willfully and continually violated the Constitution and betrayed the trust of the American people. Because a lickspittle corporate media has virtually ignored the significance of Obama’s treason, we believe it is crucial to raise awareness with a new poster campaign.
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Don't worry, it will get worse then this. Let's take a look over this paragraph.
" (...) the globalist puppet Barry aka Barack Obama is a tyrannical dictator who has willfully and continually violated the Constitution (...)"
When did he violate the Constitution? Oh, I think I know what Alex Jones is talking about. That time we went into Pakistan and killed Osama Bin Laden and when we put drones in the air in Yemen to go after the Al-Qaeda nutjobs and we killed that propaganda douch, Anwar Al-Awalki, who puts out magizine, called Inspire, trying inspiring muslims to become home-grown terrorist. Oh, and just because Anwar Al-Awalki is an American citizen doesn't mean we can't go after him. He is considered a terrorist and promoting terrorism with his magazine.
"Because a lickspittle corporate media has virtually ignored the significance of Obama’s treason (...)"
If that's "treason" to Alex, then I call bullshit. Anyway, there was much more treason during Bush's Adminastration, what with the lieing to Congress and to the American people.
"(...) we believe it is crucial to raise awareness with a new poster campaign."
Well, atleast you're doing something other then screaming that "9/11 was an inside job" all god damn day.
Then after that we have two videos that I'm not going to go over but you can certainly see them on the website. I think this contest is over but I'm not sure. It already has the 1st place winner, Youtube name nfcjosh. The second place winner was Youtube name ra2day. So, congrats on winning $5,000 and $1,000, you fucking fascist dickheads. Here's more of the contest crap.
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Win $5,000 by producing a poster and a video of its placement in a lawful public commons area. The poster must stress the tyranny of Obama and include the Infowars.com web address.
An example would be Obama festooned with a Hitler mustache or a likewise resemblance of classic totalitarian posterage (Mao or Stalin, for example). However, the sky’s the limit and we encourage you to get creative and come up with your own motif.
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"An example would be Obama festooned with a Hitler mustache or a likewise resemblance of classic totalitarian posterage (...)"
A Hitler mustache? On Presdient Obama? No, I think that type of thing should be reserved for Alex Jones. Alex has his own SS force (Infowarriors) who listen to his show like he's the Fuhrer.
Let's see what else Alex, the Fuhrer of Infowars, has to say next...
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Alex has suggested the following cues to get you started: Rat Dictator Obama, Dictator Scum, Murdering Dictator, etc. Concentrate on Obama’s crimes and you’ll find the appropriate message. We’d like to see the posters provide specific details on how Obama has become a dictator, for instance his signing of the NDAA and issuing numerous executive orders.
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"Alex has suggested the following cues to get you started: Rat Dictator Obama, Dictator Scum, Murdering Dictator, etc."
Hey Alex...Fuck you. You know why? You didn't do this with George Bush, did you? Oh, shit, you kind of did, but you didn't go this far.
"(...) provide specific details on how Obama has become a dictator, for instance his signing of the NDAA (...)"
Yeah, well, President Obama may have signed the NDAA bill, but at least he didn't come up with it...
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From Justia.com : (This paragraph appers 7 paragraphs down)
It was President George W. Bush, together with Vice-President Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and a host of other senior Bush administration officials who took the most radical and important steps toward establishing indefinite detention without trial as a mainstay of the US approach to fighting terrorism. But the Bush administration, preferring to act unilaterally, did not even bother to seek congressional sanction for its indefinite detention schemes. It established Guantanamo on its own, held American citizens without charge in the absence of a legislative mandate to do so, and fought judicial oversight tooth and nail.
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So, what happened when this happened? You want to know what happened? Nothing. No one cared. No one cared that their rights were taken away by George Bush and Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeild. Well, that isn't really true. Liberals made the biggest rebel yell about these things, protesting, and talking about what George Bush did, including the Abu Ghraib prision scandle, but the Republicans and the Religious Holier-Then -Thou Right couldn't care. So, we could have stopped it, but no one cared, execpt for the liberals.
Ok, what else do we need to know Alex?
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You can create your own poster or use ours.
Please remember to abide by all local ordinances when displaying your posters. A good rule of thumb is to post them in entertainment, eatery and bar areas where other posters may be posted.
This is a package deal and the video presentation and its overall aesthetics and dynamic content are as equally important as the graphical impact of the poster and its message.
Phase One is on a tight schedule. All video entries must be on YouTube or a similar video hosting platform by Friday, June 22, at midnight CST. Alex will announce the winner on Monday’s Infowars Nightly News streamed on PrisonPlant.tv 7pm Central.
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Oh, damn we missed this one...but...
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Phase Two
Same deal as above, but with a more expansive time-frame. The winner of this phase of the contest will receive a whopping $10,000. The deadline is July 6, 2012, at midnight CST.
We can’t emphasize how important this contest is with a lackadaisical Congress and a compliant corporate media that either completely ignores Obama’s treachery or criminally glosses over it.
Entries and winner of the Phase 1 contest will be eligible for the Phase 2 contest as well.
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Oh damn, we missed this one too, but there are video with who won and two posters that show President Obama with a Hitler mustache with the words "DICTATOR SCUM" on the poster above and below the Presidents face. And another with "MURDERING DICTATOR" with President Obama with red glowing eyes. And, of course, the thrid one which is President Obama with the Hitler mustache with different lighting.
In a last ditch effort to see if I was wrong on the claim I made about Alex not taking George Bushes presidence this far (to the point where he's making posters), but as I looked up "alex jones president bush dictator scum" I didn't find anything for 3 pages execpt for the President Obama contest. And then I went on to images on those words...still nothing but Presdient Obama, with a touch of Presdient / Dictator Mubarak, from Eqypt. I know Alex said a lot of bad things about Presdient Bush which some of it was true, but most of it false and a bunch of lies which propagated the idea of a "New World Order" of some sort and "9/11 was an inside job" bullshit. Too bad that he didn't hold a contest for Presdient Bush...then I would have admitted I was wrong.
Well, that's it for now. Join me again tomorrow where I'll go over one of those Ron Paul articles from the LewRockwell website.
Shydude89.
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